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May 25, 2014, 2:37 pm
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Girls room removed

As many of you will be aware we have deleted the girls room. It has always been an issue and when making the rooms the debate on if we should make it at all was a long one, we decided to allow it but keep it a free for all room that both genders could enter but hoped that men would respect it enough to stay out. 

This did not happen and in the end the fuss made by the few has taken the room away for the many, at the end of the day this is an adult website and  moderators who give their time up to help the site out should not get so much abuse about one room on an adult chat site.

For these reasons the room has been removed and will not be added back, we gave it a fair shot and have now come to the conclusion that we simple can not make it work.

Rooms made with the same name or similar will be removed and if the same person repeatedly makes the room they will be banned.

June 5, 2014, 5:54 pm
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Baby Girl, before I lock this thread I will mention one thing. I have worked in the adult entertainment industry for a few months shy of 6 yrs as of this writing.

Pay sites are popular, especially porn sites where members are routinely paying $19.99-$29.99 a month for exclusive content. They aren't paying with pixie dust, they are paying by credit card.

No mods or anyone has access to the payment or billing on this site for premium membership or donations except me. If you think getting adult merchant accounts are easy, think again. I wouldn't have been given one if I was a criminal or shady.

There are thousands of successful membership sites that are billing tons of money, the members are not living in fear of people finding out. If you or some others are cautious to do so, that is of course your right, but not everyone feels that way. I realize not coming from the adult entertainment industry, you are not regularly dealing with this situation, but I do daily in my other fields. Dealing with clients and credit cards and all their info is a part of my daily life. Some extra cautious ones may get a pre paid card so their wife may not see it on their statement and question them, but adult sites have millions of clients that bill with them and they prosper.
June 3, 2014, 8:39 am
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Lots of people do it, lots of people pay for things they like every day and they hand the information over be it in the form of a credit card or a copy of official documents, they do it.
The only real reason to not want to is because they have something to hide, underage or not a woman. There is genuinely no other reason to it as the details are used to put a simple check mark on your account that you are infact female and will have access to a female only room.


You are more than welcome to Alice, Sharon is the one you need to lobby.
June 3, 2014, 2:08 am
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You seem to think I have a say in what happens here, I really do not, Lots of things are wrong and need a huge amount of work and effort put into them to make it right, I tried but in the end the owner of the site does as they see fit.

Does this mean I agree with that? no, not at all I think some rules are stupid. I also see what having such strict rules on petty things does for the site too and will never hide the fact I disagree with them but when it comes down to a girls only room, if you want one why not just hand over the information and for the first time across all sites have an actual girls room with only girls in it?

At the end of the day I do not have any power in getting your room back or any say in it. I just know that if you gave over some small details about yourself that one  - two people seen, (No moderator would see it) then you would have the room with a fully supportive site. I just do not see why something can mean so much yet you are not willing to provide a little information to get it.

All the site needs is an official document with your name and a matching document like a bill with the same name and address. 
You can blank out money information like how much you pay, you can even cover up most of your passport and I would suggest you do, all it needs is the picture, name and address to show. It will never been used , all records of it will be deleted and a simple marker added to your profile which will allow you to enter the girls room. (this will take a little while to add but not a huge thing)
June 1, 2014, 6:33 am
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It can be talked about till everyone is blue in the face but it will always comes down to the same thing, to have a girls only room you will need to provide the information to the site and they will create the room and moderate it as such. Without that information there is no girls only room.
May 30, 2014, 10:49 pm
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It will be a lonely place I can tell you that now.
May 30, 2014, 4:48 pm
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They do not have a place on the site but we also give a little grace period for some people to adjust to rules being enforced here. The goal was always to have a great place were nobody felt abused and I think the site does a great job of that.

I honestly did not want the room to close but when you are getting complaints all the time from both sides, users and moderators the only thing to do was close it down.
May 29, 2014, 12:26 pm
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I agree with you sexylips_,

I think the room should be there and I also agree that the room should be open to anyone. That is what we had to start with but when you say just ban those who are abusive that would be 90% of the room and not for just being abusive to users, they also find the time to abuse the moderating staff too because they are so unhappy with a hand full of men entering the room.

Out of all the room (not that many) there was only one room that got complaints every day, the girls room. So instead of just banning the users we took the room away.

I disagree with no valid reason not to, as without reading it all you will not see that all the room was doing , was abusing males that entered and moaning about men being allowed there. They were abusive to everyone and you can only let that go with issuing warnings for so long before enough is enough.
May 27, 2014, 4:26 pm
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So what you want is a room for women, were 30% of them are actually male, another 30% are not even gay and overall 90% of the people do not even talk in the room anyway unless its to abuse a male who entered.

You then want the site to hand over moderating powers to someone who is in the room a lot and can moderate it, even though this person might well be a guy, then allow this guy / all the abusive women who are all asking for moderator roles in chat to just police that one room, to then ban and remove other males because they are stopping women in the room that hardly says anything from chatting to each other?


As for the whole women are being treated badly or targeted because all the male moderators are straight is just pathetic. 

Just to come back to your post Kathleend:

 (Bi-men have don't have the same needs and desires as bi-women.) 

 Are women just that special that they redefine the meaning of bi-sexual?  I am 100% on the fact that not everyone in the world have the same needs and desires as the next person but to make the claim that bi-women are just totally different from bi-men is the most offensive thing I have read in this thread so far.

(The women's bathroom analogy is valid, it makes us feel as though we are being spied upon.)


Unless you are all sitting on the toilet while in the chat room and have your cam on for the guys to watch if they enter, that analogy is never going to be valid and frankly if you all sit there on the toilet and let other women watch you I find it rather disturbing and would likely be added to the site rules anyway as some sort of scat.


(There are plenty of rooms here where we can mingle with guys, all we ask is for one room, one room only that is for women.)  

You had the room but males entering it was the highlight of the day in room activity, also what you mean is, there are plenty of rooms where everyone can talk to each other but that is not good enough for women we need our own room to not talk to each other and do everything in private because non of the other rooms have private chat features.

(Most everybody is capable of spotting and dealing with fakes on our own.  It is also understood that its impossible to expect you to try to police that)

Why should moderators waste their time trying then? if there is no room were a gender is banned there is no issue and no problem.


 (Part of the fun of chat sites is getting together with like minded groups of people, and meeting new people as well,  its great that we can invite old friends into private chats, but its not a way to meet new friends.)

Plenty of rooms for that all over the site, you had a room called the girls room and all it ever did was cause issues because the odd male entered, this is not a childrens chat room so anything you have to say about the body or sexual is perfectly fine to say in the main rooms and if you then say well we do not feel comfortable talking about it in front of men, that is what private chats were made for and then! if you come back with well I want to talk about it with more than one person, you are clearly not that uncomfortable about the topic of the conversation.





(I can tell you that a lot of women are leaving here because of this policy.  It makes us feel as though we are not valued customers.  You probably could even get some of us to sign up as premium members if we felt welcome.)


Well then provide a copy of your passport and a recent house bill with matching names and the site would create a room for only women because if you are willing to buy premium and give up your name, address and credit card information what is wrong with providing the same information in the form of a photo copy?

You would then get a women only room that could actually be policed correctly, it has been said many many times, if you want it that bad and it means that much send in the information and lets make it happen!
May 27, 2014, 2:50 pm
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Interesting case you put forward there, let them do as they please I can't for the world of me think why that wouldn't get the room back.

Anyway good luck on it all.
May 27, 2014, 12:25 pm
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Well state your case then, explain to everyone why you need a girls only room and how it would work when the site has no idea who is in the room.

You want something done about it then go, explain away bring a solid argument. Moaning about it will get you nothing, a solid argument and sound reasoning will get you everything.


Just to lay out some ground work for you, to avoid you falling into a sandpit right out the gates:


(1) Being gay is not a valid reason - there are bi rooms which gay falls under too.

(2) Being women and not wanting to speak to men is again not a valid reason - there is a fully functional block / ignore system on this site.

(3) Knowing if an account is really a guy or not and simply ignoring them if they come into the room is again not a valid reason for you getting the room - if you are aware of female accounts being male yet are ok with it, you do not need the room at all as every other room is the same.

(4) Not being able to make rooms with similar names doesnt mean you cant make a room totally off topic - if you want to make a passworded room for only women, that is up to you, all you need to do is make a room password it and not call it something similar to the girls room. IE  Only girls room = NO  Sally and her gay friends = YES.

Only the people you invite can access the room all problems solved.



So again make a solid argument to why you need a girls only room, I for one am really Intrigued and would love to see one person come up with a valid case for it. Goodluck!
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